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------=_NextPart_000_0264_01C7922F.656EB1E0-- From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Wed May 09 11:46:56 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hlil2-0001Hh-Ar for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 09 May 2007 11:46:56 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A28520E1 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 11:46:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 09 May 2007 09:46:52 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,508,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="12859124:sNHT19450466" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509114238.01bce680@uni-konstanz.de> Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070508173344.01c134e0@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:46:51 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.5 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:47:04 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] =?iso-8859-1?q?Open_Access_kritische_Empfehlung_der?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_Aussch=FCsse_an_den_Bundesrat?= X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 09:46:56 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 1980 Lines: 63 Liebe Teilnehmer der ipoa_forum liste, ich m=F6chte mich kurz vorstellen und eine erste=20 Mitteilung zum Thema Open Access in die Runde geben. Mein Name ist Anja Kersting, ich bin=20 Mitarbeiterin der Bibliothek der Universit=E4t=20 Konstanz und zusammen mit Rubina Vock=20 Koordinatorin des Projekts Informationsplattform=20 open-access.net. Ich freue mich auf angeregte=20 Open-Access-Diskussionen in diesem Forum! Nun zur eigentlichen Meldung: In der "Mitteilung der Kommission der=20 Europ=E4ischen Gemeinschaften an das Europ=E4ische=20 Parlament, den Rat und den Europ=E4ischen=20 Wirtschafts- und Sozialausschuss =FCber=20 wissenschaftliche Informationen im=20 Digital-zeitalter: Zugang, Verbreitung und=20 Bewahrung", vom 30.4.2007 wird Skepsis gegen=FCber=20 Open-Access-Publikationen deutlich. Der=20 federf=FChrende Ausschuss f=FCr Fragen der=20 Europ=E4ischen Union, der Rechtsausschuss und der=20 Wirtschaftsausschuss empfehlen dem Bundesrat,=20 Open Access als erg=E4nzenden Weg der=20 Wissensvermittlung zu betrachten und wirft die=20 Frage auf, inwieweit die wissenschaftliche=20 Informationsversorgung eine =F6ffentliche Aufgabe ist. Im Vergleich zum positiven Gegenentwurf des=20 Bundesrates zum Zweiten Korb, der Open Access=20 sehr positiv zugetan war, stellt diese Empfehlung=20 der Aussch=FCsse eine starke Relativierung der=20 bisherigen Bundesratsposition dar. http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Drucksachen/2007/0101-200/139-1-0= 7,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.pdf/139-1-07.pdf Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Hubertus.Kohle@lrz.uni-muenchen.de Wed May 09 13:34:57 2007 Received: from mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de ([129.187.254.102]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HlkRW-0001Yn-KP for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 09 May 2007 13:34:57 +0200 Received: from [141.84.141.148] ([141.84.141.148] [141.84.141.148]) by mailout.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:34:45 +0200 Message-Id: <4641B1D5.1050006@lrz.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 13:34:45 +0200 From: Hubertus Kohle User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22?= References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509114238.01bce680@uni-konstanz.de> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509114238.01bce680@uni-konstanz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Level: / 0.9 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 May 2007 13:37:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [IP-OA_Forum] =?iso-8859-1?q?Open_Access_kritische_Empfehlung_der?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_Aussch=FCsse_an_den_Bundesrat?= X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:34:58 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 2703 Lines: 98 Anja Kersting schrieb: >Liebe Teilnehmer der ipoa_forum liste, liebe Frau Kersting > =20 > wie passt diese Melding eigentlich zu http://erc.europa.eu/pdf/open-access.pdf und zu http://ec.europa.eu/research/science-society/pdf/scientific-publication-stu= dy_en.pdf Sch=F6ne Gr=FC=DFe Ihr Hubertus Kohle --=20 Prof.Dr. Hubertus Kohle Institut f=FCr Kunstgeschichte der LMU M=FCnchen Georgenstr. 7 80799 M=FCnchen Tel. 089 21805317 Fax 089 21805316 Privat Theresienstr. 16 80333 M=FCnchen Tel. 08928879810 >ich m=F6chte mich kurz vorstellen und eine erste=20 >Mitteilung zum Thema Open Access in die Runde geben. > >Mein Name ist Anja Kersting, ich bin=20 >Mitarbeiterin der Bibliothek der Universit=E4t=20 >Konstanz und zusammen mit Rubina Vock=20 >Koordinatorin des Projekts Informationsplattform=20 >open-access.net. Ich freue mich auf angeregte=20 >Open-Access-Diskussionen in diesem Forum! > >Nun zur eigentlichen Meldung: > >In der "Mitteilung der Kommission der=20 >Europ=E4ischen Gemeinschaften an das Europ=E4ische=20 >Parlament, den Rat und den Europ=E4ischen=20 >Wirtschafts- und Sozialausschuss =FCber=20 >wissenschaftliche Informationen im=20 >Digital-zeitalter: Zugang, Verbreitung und=20 >Bewahrung", vom 30.4.2007 wird Skepsis gegen=FCber=20 >Open-Access-Publikationen deutlich. Der=20 >federf=FChrende Ausschuss f=FCr Fragen der=20 >Europ=E4ischen Union, der Rechtsausschuss und der=20 >Wirtschaftsausschuss empfehlen dem Bundesrat,=20 >Open Access als erg=E4nzenden Weg der=20 >Wissensvermittlung zu betrachten und wirft die=20 >Frage auf, inwieweit die wissenschaftliche=20 >Informationsversorgung eine =F6ffentliche Aufgabe ist. > >Im Vergleich zum positiven Gegenentwurf des=20 >Bundesrates zum Zweiten Korb, der Open Access=20 >sehr positiv zugetan war, stellt diese Empfehlung=20 >der Aussch=FCsse eine starke Relativierung der=20 >bisherigen Bundesratsposition dar. > >http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Drucksachen/2007/0101-200/139-1= -07,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.pdf/139-1-07.pdf > > >Viele Gr=FC=DFe, > >Anja Kersting > >----------------------------------------------- >Anja Kersting >Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek >Projekt Open Access >----------------------------------------------- >Raum B 906 >Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 >78457 Konstanz >Tel.: 07531/88-2475 >Fax: 07531/88-3082 >E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de >----------------------------------------------- >Informationsplattform Open Access: >http://www.open-access.net > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Ipoa_forum mailing list >Ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de >http://lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mailman/listinfo/ipoa_forum > > =20 > From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Wed May 09 13:58:14 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hlko4-0003T7-Jw for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 09 May 2007 13:58:14 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD251B8C for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:58:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 09 May 2007 11:58:08 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,509,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="12867193:sNHT16650662" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509134536.01b7bba0@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 13:58:08 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting In-Reply-To: <4641B1D5.1050006@lrz.uni-muenchen.de> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509114238.01bce680@uni-konstanz.de> <4641B1D5.1050006@lrz.uni-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.5 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 May 2007 13:58:38 +0200 Subject: Re: [IP-OA_Forum] =?iso-8859-1?q?Open_Access_kritische_Empfehlung_der?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_Aussch=FCsse_an_den_Bundesrat?= X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:58:15 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 5206 Lines: 172 Liebe Liste, lieber Herr Kohle, >In der "Mitteilung der Kommission der >Europ=E4ischen Gemeinschaften ...", vom 30.4.2007 wird Skepsis gegen=FCber >Open-Access-Publikationen deutlich. Nat=FCrlich m=FCsste es hei=DFen " in der Empfehlung=20 verschiedener Bundesratsaussch=FCsse zu der "Mitteilung der Kommission ...". Dann passt es auch wieder mit den Aussagen in den=20 von Ihnen angebenen Dokumenten zusammen. Bitte entschuldigen Sie den Lapsus. Die Mitteilung der Kommission der Europ=E4ischen=20 Gemeinschaften an das Europ=E4ische Parlament, den=20 Rat und den Europ=E4ischen Wirtschafts- und=20 Sozialausschuss steht Open Access sehr=20 aufgeschlossen gegen=FCber. In der angesprochen=20 Empfehlung der Aussch=FCsse des Bundesrates=20 allerdings empfiehlt zwar der Ausschuss f=FCr=20 Kulturfragen des Bundesrates dem Bundesrat, die=20 Vorlage der Kommission zur Kenntnis zu nehmen,=20 die Aussch=FCsse f=FCr Fragen der EU (federf=FChrend),=20 der Rechts- und der Wirtschaftsausschuss regen=20 dagegen eine kritische Stellungnahme an. Zudem=20 wird Open Access wird nur als ein erg=E4nzender Weg=20 der Wissensvermittlung von Forschungsergebnissen gesehen. S ehr bemerkenswert ist die Aussage des Europa- und=20 des Wirtschaftsausschusses: "Die von der=20 Kommission in Aussicht gestellte Ko-Finanzierung=20 von Forschungsinfrastrukturen (insbesondere=20 "digitale Repositories") wirft nach Auffassung=20 des Bundesrates die grunds=E4tzliche Frage auf,=20 inwieweit die wissenschaftliche=20 Informationsversorgung eine =F6ffentliche Aufgabe ist." Diese Aussagen stellen eine starke Relativierung=20 der Einstellung des Bundesrats zu Open Access dar. Ich bin sehr gespannt wie sich der Bundesrat am Freitag positionieren wird. Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting At 13:34 09.05.2007, Hubertus Kohle wrote: >Anja Kersting schrieb: > > >Liebe Teilnehmer der ipoa_forum liste, liebe Frau Kersting > > > > >wie passt diese Melding eigentlich zu >http://erc.europa.eu/pdf/open-access.pdf >und zu >http://ec.europa.eu/research/science-society/pdf/scientific-publication-stu= dy_en.pdf >Sch=F6ne Gr=FC=DFe >Ihr Hubertus Kohle > >-- >Prof.Dr. Hubertus Kohle >Institut f=FCr Kunstgeschichte der LMU M=FCnchen >Georgenstr. 7 >80799 M=FCnchen >Tel. 089 21805317 >Fax 089 21805316 > >Privat >Theresienstr. 16 >80333 M=FCnchen >Tel. 08928879810 > > > >ich m=F6chte mich kurz vorstellen und eine erste > >Mitteilung zum Thema Open Access in die Runde geben. > > > >Mein Name ist Anja Kersting, ich bin > >Mitarbeiterin der Bibliothek der Universit=E4t > >Konstanz und zusammen mit Rubina Vock > >Koordinatorin des Projekts Informationsplattform > >open-access.net. Ich freue mich auf angeregte > >Open-Access-Diskussionen in diesem Forum! > > > >Nun zur eigentlichen Meldung: > > > >In der "Mitteilung der Kommission der > >Europ=E4ischen Gemeinschaften an das Europ=E4ische > >Parlament, den Rat und den Europ=E4ischen > >Wirtschafts- und Sozialausschuss =FCber > >wissenschaftliche Informationen im > >Digital-zeitalter: Zugang, Verbreitung und > >Bewahrung", vom 30.4.2007 wird Skepsis gegen=FCber > >Open-Access-Publikationen deutlich. Der > >federf=FChrende Ausschuss f=FCr Fragen der > >Europ=E4ischen Union, der Rechtsausschuss und der > >Wirtschaftsausschuss empfehlen dem Bundesrat, > >Open Access als erg=E4nzenden Weg der > >Wissensvermittlung zu betrachten und wirft die > >Frage auf, inwieweit die wissenschaftliche > >Informationsversorgung eine =F6ffentliche Aufgabe ist. > > > >Im Vergleich zum positiven Gegenentwurf des > >Bundesrates zum Zweiten Korb, der Open Access > >sehr positiv zugetan war, stellt diese Empfehlung > >der Aussch=FCsse eine starke Relativierung der > >bisherigen Bundesratsposition dar. > > > >http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Druc=20 >= ksachen/2007/0101-200/139-1-07,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.= pdf/139-1-07.pdf > > > > > >Viele Gr=FC=DFe, > > > >Anja Kersting > > > >----------------------------------------------- > >Anja Kersting > >Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek > >Projekt Open Access > >----------------------------------------------- > >Raum B 906 > >Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 > >78457 Konstanz > >Tel.: 07531/88-2475 > >Fax: 07531/88-3082 > >E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de > >----------------------------------------------- > >Informationsplattform Open Access: > >http://www.open-access.net > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Ipoa_forum mailing list > >Ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de > >http://lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mailman/listinfo/ipoa_forum > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Ipoa_forum mailing list >Ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de >http://lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mailman/listinfo/ipoa_forum ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From koltzenburg@tu-harburg.de Thu May 10 12:01:00 2007 Received: from smtp3.rz.tu-harburg.de ([134.28.202.138]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hm5SA-0004vi-9e for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; 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boundary=Apple-Mail-4-942444359 --Apple-Mail-4-942444359 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Recht sch=F6nen Dank fpr den Link , hier findet ja auch schon eine angeregte Diskusion statt = gruss On May 11, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Klaus Graf wrote: > http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3716819/ -- =20 "Pulvis et umbra sumus" - Staub und Schatten sind wir. web: http://www.let.de .local http://stattfernsehen.com --Apple-Mail-4-942444359 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Recht sch=F6nen Dank fpr den = Link ,

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= --Apple-Mail-4-942444359-- --Apple-Mail-5-942444632 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGRZZ5ckz/o44sWc4RAvGqAJ47lVDLSv8elNqHMhd5N9XV3BJ+ZwCgkh5/ 5Id14/gY1SUHQQsEIca7u0E= =3Fg/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-5-942444632-- From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Mon May 14 15:52:19 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HnayB-0008SL-Kq for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:52:19 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691EE20D0 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:52:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 14 May 2007 13:52:11 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,531,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13201632:sNHT17145058" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514155017.01ac0440@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:52:11 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.4 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:09 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Fwd: Re: Germany's Bundesrat against OA X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:52:20 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 7421 Lines: 191 Liebe Liste, wir wurden gebeten unten stehende Diskussion aus=20 anderen Listen auch hier abzubilden: >On Sun, 13 May 2007, Armbruster, Chris wrote: > > ...the publishers' lobbyists on this occasion were successful > > - they had their position written into the Bundesrat opinion, > > almost to the letter. > > > > This Bundesrat opinion is bad news for OA... > > How come that toll access publishers had it all their way? > > ...how good are OA activists in addressing the concerns of > > policy makers and parliaments? > > > > There principally are two routes to OA - > > a) via the self-regulation of universities, libraries, > > science organisations and learned societies, or > > b) via political regulation. decision-makers... providing > > 'conclusive evidence' that allows them to decide for you (and > > against the other side). > > Is the OA movement ready for this kind of adversarial politics? > >Probably not, and probably no need. The research community (researchers, >their universities and their funders) can do it all amongst themselves >already. There is a simple way, if we can only get the research community >to listen, and understand, and act: The Immediate-Deposit/Optional-Access >Mandate removes the publishers and the publishing lobby from the decision >loop *completely*. Government intervention is not needed either. > > http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/71-guid.html > http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/136-guid.html > >All I can do is keep repeating this message, amidst all the hubbub and >indirection, hoping that it will be understood that all else becomes >moot if the research community itself (universities and funders) just >mandate ID/OA: Absolutely nothing else matters. Nothing can stop the >worldwide research community from doing it. And it will work. And it >will bring 100% OA very soon. Everything else just means years more of >the confusion and delay we have now. To reach for less, or for more, >is to get next to nothing. ID/OA is completely within our reach; all >we need do is grasp it, now. > >Stevan Harnad > >On Sun, 13 May 2007, Armbruster, Chris wrote: > > > Dear Peter, dear all, > > > > The German Bundesrat is NOT against OA, but it is also not pro OA. > > > > The headline ('against OA') and summary on Heise > > Online presumably seeks to capture the drift of > > the Bundesrat deliberations, which are perceived > > as being less supportive of OA than the EC > > communication on scientific information (from February 2007). > > > > I urge you and anyone interested to study this > > case more closely. Strategically, it could be > > important to learn from this, because the > > Bundesrat - more specifically, its Committees for > > the EU, for legal policy and for economic affairs > > - explicitly reacted to the EC communication on scientific information. > > > > Recommendations of the Committees from 30 April: > >=20 >= http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Drucksachen/2007/0101-200/139-1-= 07,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.pdf/139-1-07.pdf=20 > > > > > > > Prior position of the Bundesregierung=20 > (Federal Government) from 26 February: > >=20 >= http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Drucksachen/2007/0101-200/139-07= ,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.pdf/139-07.pdf=20 > > > > > > > Agenda of the Bundesrat (scroll to TOP 34) the > > clarifies that this neither about legislation nor > > about a decision, but an opinion (Stellungnahme): > >=20 >= http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/nn_8690/DE/parlamentsmaterial/to-plenum/833= -sitzung/to-node.html?__nnn=3Dtrue=20 > > > > > The questions is, of course, what do we make of all of this? > > > > There is a prior Heise Online summary that > > captures the flavour of the deliberations and=20 > the shift quite well (I think): > > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/89366 > > > > My comment: > > 1. The opinion and commentary of the > > Bundesregierung (26 Feb) was reflective of the EC > > communication and highlighted organisational, > > technical, legal and economic issues. > > 2. In the Bundesrat this was narrowed to economic and legal issues. > > 3. I notice a resemblance (in spirit, if not in > > letter) between the concerns written down by the > > Bundesrat Committees and those of exclusive, toll > > access, content holding publishers as articulated > > in the recent white paper of stm, ALPSP and PSP. > > 4. If OA is defined as 'public provision' of free > > access then this jars with the prevailing (EC, > > political) focus on innovation, competitiveness and economic growth. > > =3D> It is probably fair to say that the > > publishers' lobbyists on this occasion were > > successful - they had their position written into > > the Bundesrat opinion, almost to the letter. The > > irony is, of course, that exclusive copyright > > (transfer) favours business models that lead to > > monopoly rent-seeking. But these arguments did > > not feature in the Bundesrat. Instead, the > > publishers could even get the Bundesrat to > > acknowledge that online silos and exclusive retro > > digitisation (which, principally, enhances > > rent-seeking to the detriment of innovation and > > competition) is a useful contribution to enhancing access. > > > > In summary: > > - This Bundesrat opinion is bad news for OA - and > > thus deserves to travel fast. The OA movement > > does need to ask itself: How come that > > rent-seeking, toll access publishers had it all their way? > > - OA supporters have been happy to raise the > > stakes by targeting national and international > > policy makers (cf. EC petition). Now that > > attention is given to OA, how good are OA > > activists in addressing the concerns of policy makers and parliaments? > > - There principally are two routes to OA - a) via > > the self-regulation of universities, libraries, > > science organisations and learned societies, or > > b) via political regulation. If one decides to > > move into the political arena, then one needs to > > be firm on economic and legal detail, build a > > broad coalition (e.g. including major players of > > the new economy) and meet the expectations of the > > decision-makers of providing 'conclusive > > evidence' that allows them to decide for you (and > > against the other side). Is the OA movement ready > > for this kind of adversarial politics? > > > > Regards, Chris > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SPARC Open Access Forum on behalf of Peter Suber > > Sent: Sat 5/12/2007 9:38 PM > > To: SPARC Open Access Forum > > Subject: [SOAF] Germany's Bundesrat against OA > > > > Yesterday Stefan Krempl published a story in > > Heise Online, "Bundesrat f=FCr umfassendere=20 > Volksz=E4hlung und gegen Open Access." > > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/89635 > > > > When I blogged it, I asked for the help of > > bilingual readers in grasping the details. > >=20 >= http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2007_05_06_fosblogarchive.html#864212759= 0487399314 ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Mon May 14 15:56:21 2007 Received: from cytosin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.61]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hnb29-0000Tm-9X for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56:20 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by cytosin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2616C1459 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 14 May 2007 13:56:17 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,531,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13201989:sNHT14646002" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514155613.01a91580@uni-konstanz.de> Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514154756.01aba480@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56:17 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.4 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56:49 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Open-Access-Informationen der Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft nun auf open-access.net! X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:56:21 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 657 Lines: 29 Liebe Liste, seit soeben sind nun auch die=20 Open-Access-Informationsseiten der=20 Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft auf open-access.net zu finden: http://open-access.net/de/oa_informationen_der/fraunhofer_gesellschaft/ Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From klausgraf@googlemail.com Mon May 14 19:31:35 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HneOP-0001Ig-Ln for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 14 May 2007 19:31:35 +0200 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 36so1114481uga for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.6.14 with SMTP id j14mr857236ugi.1179163884596; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.18.2 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:31:24 +0200 From: "Klaus Graf" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Open_Access_(http://openaccess-germany.de/)?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: / 0.0 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:35:06 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Unbelegte Behauptungen zur Verkaufsfoerderung durch OA X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:31:36 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 63 Lines: 4 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3326893/#3728341 Klaus Graf From Karlheinz.Pappenberger@uni-konstanz.de Thu May 17 01:09:25 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HoScU-0006tN-NY for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Thu, 17 May 2007 01:09:25 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC39F16F3 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 01:09:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pc89-115.isdn.uni-konstanz.de (HELO wessenberg.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.89.115]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 16 May 2007 23:09:15 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,544,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13393413:sNHT15161517" Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20070517005641.0298c1e0@popserver.uni-konstanz.de> X-Sender: pop05927@popserver.uni-konstanz.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 01:09:16 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Karlheinz Pappenberger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.2 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:58:14 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Call for Papers - OA-Workshop Informatik X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 23:09:26 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 1140 Lines: 36 Liebe Teilnehmer der ipoa_forum liste, im Rahmen der Jahrestagung der Gesellschaft f=FCr Informatik in Bremen im=20 September 2007 (http://www.informatik2007.de/) findet am Montag, den 24.9. ein Workshop zu= =20 Open Access statt. Der offizielle Call for Papers ist bereits abgelaufen; es werden aber noch= =20 Beitr=E4ge gesucht. Bis 28.5. soll die Programmstruktur stehen. Es wird gebeten, Beitr=E4ge bis= =20 sp=E4testens 28.5. einzureichen. Angenommene Beitr=E4ge, die bis sp=E4testens 1.7. vollst=E4ndig eingereicht= sind=20 (max. 5 Seiten), werden im GI-Tagungsband ver=F6ffentlicht. Weitere Informationen finden Sie unter http://openaccess-germany.de/de/oa_in_verschiedenen_faechern/informatik/info= rmatik_2007_call_for_papers/) Freundliche Gr=FC=DFe, Karlheinz Pappenberger --------------------------------------------------------------------- Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access --------------------------------------------------------------------- Universitaetsstrasse 10; D-78457 Konstanz Raum B 909 Tel.: ++49 (0)7531/88-2844 Fax: ++49 (0)7531/88-3082 E-mail: Karlheinz.Pappenberger@uni-konstanz.de From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Thu May 17 15:52:05 2007 Received: from cytosin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.61]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HogOg-0002Cs-SZ for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:05 +0200 Received: from pyrimidin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (pyrimidin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.46]) by cytosin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B25156A for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pauki.rz.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.55]) by pyrimidin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 17 May 2007 13:52:01 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,548,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="4650215:sNHT14475608" Received: by pauki.rz.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix, from userid 30) id 9437A78007FE; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 84-75-65-152.dclient.hispeed.ch (84-75-65-152.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.75.65.152]) by webmail.uni-konstanz.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:01 +0200 Message-ID: <20070517155201.o6f1cdw3wo848wcs@webmail.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:01 +0200 From: Anja Kersting To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de References: <5.0.2.1.1.20070517005641.0298c1e0@popserver.uni-konstanz.de> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.1.20070517005641.0298c1e0@popserver.uni-konstanz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-Originating-IP: 84.75.65.152 X-Spam-Level: / 0.0 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:39 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Diskussion im Bundesrat X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:52:06 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 270 Lines: 12 Liebe Liste, Herr Steinhauer beschreibt in seinem Blog sehr anschaulich, wie die =20 "Diskussion" im Bundesrat am letzten Freitag abgelaufen ist... http://bibliotheksrecht.blog.de/2007/05/17/die_dikussion_im_bundesrat~228539= 3 Viele Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Anja Kersting From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Mon May 21 10:23:00 2007 Received: from cytosin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.61]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq3AK-0003Ad-Pz for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 21 May 2007 10:22:59 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by cytosin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC551505 for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 10:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 21 May 2007 08:22:47 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,560,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13644686:sNHT15152991" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070521100437.01a6f400@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:22:47 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.3 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:24:50 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Publikation Craig et al X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:23:00 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 1579 Lines: 51 Liebe Liste, eine Vorabversion einer neuen Publikation zur=20 Frage, ob Open Access ver=F6ffentlichte Artikel=20 einen h=F6heren Impact-Faktor aufweisen, ist erschienen: Craig, Ian; Andrew Plume, Marie McVeigh, James=20 Pringle & Mayur Amin (2007) Do Open Access=20 Articles Have Greater Citation Impact? A critical=20 review of the literature. Journal of Informetrics. http://www.publishingresearch.net/Citations-SummaryPaper3_000.pdf.pdf Die Autoren gestehen Open-Access-Publikationen=20 zwar eine h=F6here Zitationsrate zu, allerdings=20 nicht weil sie Open Access seien, sondern weil=20 sie eher verf=FCgbar seien und zudem=20 Open-Access-Artikel anscheinend sowieso bessere=20 Artikel von bekannteren Autoren seien, die ohnehin mehr zitiert w=FCrden!! Der kausale Zusammenhang zwischen Open Access und=20 einer h=F6heren Zitationsrate sei also nicht gegeben. Man fragt sich nur, ob diese Autoren =FCberhaupt=20 derartiges nachweisen wollten, wenn man die=20 Arbeitgeber der Autoren, Iain D.Craig=20 (Wiley-Blackwell), Andrew M.Plume, Mayur Amin=20 (Elsevier), Marie E.McVeigh, James Pringle (Thomson Scientific) beachtet!! Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Mon May 21 14:15:50 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq6nf-0002At-OA for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:15:49 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EFF1CFF for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:15:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 21 May 2007 12:15:40 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,560,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13663369:sNHT14792295" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070521140757.01ac6d68@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:15:40 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.3 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:17:36 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Nachtrag Publikation Craig X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 12:15:54 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 825 Lines: 32 Liebe Liste, auf Nachfrage hier der Link zur Quelle bzgl.=20 Diskussion zur Publikation von Craig et al. Die Information basierte auf einer Diskussion im=20 american scientist open access forum, die ganze=20 Diskussion k=F6nnen Sie im Archiv unter den=20 Beitr=E4gen von Stevan Harnad nachlesen: http://listserver.sigmaxi.org/sc/wa.exe?A1=3Dind07&L=3Damerican-scientist-op= en-access-forum&F=3Dl Anja Kersting ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Rubina.Vock@fu-berlin.de Mon May 21 14:16:23 2007 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq6oC-0002De-B0 for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:16:22 +0200 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Hq6o9-0000ME-F1>; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:16:13 +0200 Received: from zuv33090.cedis.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.168.168] helo=ZUVTEMP04) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with smtp (envelope-from ) id <1Hq6o9-00066A-E6>; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:16:13 +0200 Message-ID: <08a801c79ba1$d2ed5e80$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> From: "Rubina Vock" To: "IPOA FORUM" Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:16:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_08A3_01C79BB2.95914CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Originating-IP: 160.45.168.168 X-Spam-Level: / 0.1 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:17:36 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] ElPub und BOBCATSSS X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 12:16:23 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 4095 Lines: 121 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_08A3_01C79BB2.95914CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Liebe Liste, hier nur zwei kurze Hinweise: Die Anmeldung f=FCr die ELPUB 2007 l=E4uft noch. Thema der Konferenz ist = "Openness in Electronic Publishing: Awareness, Discovery and Open = Access". Alles Weitere unter http://www.elpub.net/ Schade nur, dass die = Preise doch sehr hoch und f=FCr viele nicht bezahlbar sind!=20 Die Vorbereitungen f=FCr das 16. internationale Bibliothekssymposium = BOBCATSSS 2008 haben begonnen. Thema ist "Providing Access to = Information for Everyone". Die Deadline f=FCr das Einreichen von = Abstracts ist der 15.Juni 2007. Mehr Informationen unter = www.bobcatsss2008.org=20 Viele Gr=FC=DFe Rubina Vock ____________________________ Freie Universit=E4t Berlin Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme (CeDiS) Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia Dipl.-Psych. Rubina Vock E-Publishing, Open Access Informationsplattform Open Access=20 Projektkoordination Ihnestr. 24 14195 Berlin E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de Tel.: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52779 Fax: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52843 Mobile: 0176 - 255 50 510=20 Privat: +49 (0) 30 - 323 71 09 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_08A3_01C79BB2.95914CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Liebe Liste,
 
hier nur zwei kurze = Hinweise:
 
Die Anmeldung f=FCr die ELPUB 2007 = l=E4uft noch. Thema=20 der Konferenz ist "Openness in Electronic Publishing: Awareness, = Discovery and=20 Open Access". Alles Weitere unter http://www.elpub.net/  Schade=20 nur, dass die Preise doch sehr hoch und f=FCr viele nicht bezahlbar = sind!=20
 
Die Vorbereitungen f=FCr das 16. = internationale=20 Bibliothekssymposium BOBCATSSS 2008 haben begonnen. Thema ist "Providing = Access=20 to Information for Everyone". Die Deadline f=FCr das Einreichen von = Abstracts ist=20 der 15.Juni 2007. Mehr Informationen unter www.bobcatsss2008.org =
 
Viele Gr=FC=DFe
 
Rubina Vock
 
____________________________
 
Freie Universit=E4t Berlin
 
Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme=20 (CeDiS)
Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia
 
Dipl.-Psych. Rubina = Vock
E-Publishing, Open=20 Access
Informationsplattform Open Access =
Projektkoordination
Ihnestr.=20 24
14195 Berlin
 
E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de
 
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------=_NextPart_000_08A3_01C79BB2.95914CC0-- From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Wed May 23 17:41:22 2007 Received: from cytosin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.61]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqsxW-0006lP-SK for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 23 May 2007 17:41:21 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by cytosin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0E915AC for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 17:41:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 23 May 2007 15:41:02 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,570,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13863893:sNHT14740516" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070523173444.01adcc40@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:41:02 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.3 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 May 2007 18:05:12 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] =?iso-8859-1?q?Pressemitteilung_des_Urheberrechtsb?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=FCndnisses___zur_Bundesratssitzung_am_11=2E05=2E?= X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:41:23 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 699 Lines: 32 Liebe Liste, das Urheberrechtsb=FCndniss hat eine=20 Pressemitteilung zur Bundesratssitzung am 11.05. ver=F6ffentlicht.: http://www.urheberrechtsbuendnis.de/pressemitteilung0607.html Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting Quelle: http://www.ub.uni-dortmund.de/listen/inetbib/msg33483.html ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Rubina.Vock@fu-berlin.de Tue May 29 15:46:29 2007 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht21o-000645-GH for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:46:29 +0200 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Ht1eM-00076M-99>; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:22:10 +0200 Received: from zuv33090.cedis.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.168.168] helo=ZUVTEMP04) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with smtp (envelope-from ) id <1Ht1eM-0008Dk-8A>; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:22:10 +0200 Message-ID: <029201c7a1f4$5caafb70$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> From: "Rubina Vock" To: "IPOA FORUM" Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:22:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_028F_01C7A205.1EBD7F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Originating-IP: 160.45.168.168 X-Spam-Level: / 0.1 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:03:23 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Archivierungspflicht der DNB auf Netzinhalte X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:46:29 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 3719 Lines: 109 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_028F_01C7A205.1EBD7F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Liebe Liste, schon im Jahr 2006 wurde das Gesetz der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek = dahingehend novelliert, dass auch "unk=F6rperliche Werke" (Netzinhalte) = archiviert werden m=FCssen. Diese Ablieferungs- und Sammelpflicht gilt = z.B. f=FCr elektronische Tageszeitungen, Zeitschriften und Monographien. = In einem Entwurf der Pflichtabgabeverordnung (PflAV) vom 21.5.2007 = konkretisiert der Gesetzgeber seine Vorstellung =FCber die Archivierung = von "unk=F6rperlichen" Werken. Mehr Information unter http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/90316 Viele Gr=FC=DFe Rubina Vock ____________________________ Freie Universit=E4t Berlin Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme (CeDiS) Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia Dipl.-Psych. Rubina Vock E-Publishing, Open Access Informationsplattform Open Access=20 Projektkoordination Ihnestr. 24 14195 Berlin E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de Tel.: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52779 Fax: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52843 Mobile: 0176 - 255 50 510=20 Privat: +49 (0) 30 - 323 71 09 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_028F_01C7A205.1EBD7F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Liebe Liste,
 
schon im Jahr 2006 wurde das Gesetz der = Deutschen=20 Nationalbibliothek dahingehend novelliert, dass auch "unk=F6rperliche = Werke"=20 (Netzinhalte) archiviert werden m=FCssen. Diese Ablieferungs- und = Sammelpflicht=20 gilt z.B. f=FCr elektronische Tageszeitungen, Zeitschriften = und Monographien.=20 In einem Entwurf der Pflichtabgabeverordnung (PflAV) vom 21.5.2007 = konkretisiert=20 der Gesetzgeber seine Vorstellung =FCber die Archivierung von = "unk=F6rperlichen"=20 Werken.
 
Mehr Information unter http://www.heise.de= /newsticker/meldung/90316
 
Viele Gr=FC=DFe
Rubina Vock
 
____________________________
 
Freie Universit=E4t Berlin
 
Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme=20 (CeDiS)
Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia
 
Dipl.-Psych. Rubina = Vock
E-Publishing, Open=20 Access
Informationsplattform Open Access =
Projektkoordination
Ihnestr.=20 24
14195 Berlin
 
E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de
 
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------=_NextPart_000_028F_01C7A205.1EBD7F20-- From Rupert.Rompel@vde.com Tue May 29 17:00:11 2007 Received: from smtp.vde.com ([194.25.92.243]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht3BA-000256-Qb for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Tue, 29 May 2007 17:00:11 +0200 Received: from OF-DMZ-GWIA-MTA by smtp.vde.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 29 May 2007 16:39:44 +0200 Message-Id: <465C5748020000FC00004313@smtp.vde.com> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:39:36 +0200 From: "Rupert Rompel" To: "IPOA FORUM" References: <029201c7a1f4$5caafb70$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> In-Reply-To: <029201c7a1f4$5caafb70$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: + 1.1 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:09:18 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Antw: Archivierungspflicht der DNB auf Netzinhalte X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:00:12 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 1321 Lines: 49 Erinnerungen an Schilda werden wach: Wir wissen zwar noch nicht, wie wir=92s machen wollen, aber was wir falsch = machen wird mit 10.000, Euro bestraft (DNBG =A719, Abs. 2,3) !! So eine Gesetzgebung erfordert Nervenkraft ! =20 R. Rompel >>> "Rubina Vock" 29.5.2007 15:22 >>> Liebe Liste, schon im Jahr 2006 wurde das Gesetz der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek = dahingehend novelliert, dass auch "unk=F6rperliche Werke" (Netzinhalte) = archiviert werden m=FCssen. Diese Ablieferungs- und Sammelpflicht gilt = z.B. f=FCr elektronische Tageszeitungen, Zeitschriften und Monographien. = In einem Entwurf der Pflichtabgabeverordnung (PflAV) vom 21.5.2007 = konkretisiert der Gesetzgeber seine Vorstellung =FCber die Archivierung = von "unk=F6rperlichen" Werken. Mehr Information unter http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/90316=20 Viele Gr=FC=DFe Rubina Vock ____________________________ Freie Universit=E4t Berlin Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme (CeDiS) Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia Dipl.-Psych. Rubina Vock E-Publishing, Open Access Informationsplattform Open Access=20 Projektkoordination Ihnestr. 24 14195 Berlin E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de=20 Tel.: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52779 Fax: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52843 Mobile: 0176 - 255 50 510=20 Privat: +49 (0) 30 - 323 71 09 =20 From klausgraf@googlemail.com Tue May 29 23:07:25 2007 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.237]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht8uX-0006xz-S6 for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Tue, 29 May 2007 23:07:25 +0200 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so782463wri for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.73.7 with SMTP id v7mr84085aga.1180471332014; Tue, 29 May 2007 13:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.73.6 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2007 13:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 22:42:11 +0200 From: "Klaus Graf" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Open_Access_(http://openaccess-germany.de/)?=" In-Reply-To: <465C5748020000FC00004313@smtp.vde.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <029201c7a1f4$5caafb70$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> <465C5748020000FC00004313@smtp.vde.com> X-Spam-Level: / 0.0 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 May 2007 23:23:07 +0200 Subject: Re: [IP-OA_Forum] Antw: Archivierungspflicht der DNB auf Netzinhalte X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:07:26 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 674 Lines: 17 Auch bei Heise =FCberwiegt Unmut, siehe auch: http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3780158 An sich ist das Vorhaben der DNB f=FCr OA zentral, denn die Langzeitarchivierung der Dokumente ist ja ein Punkt, mit dem OA-Skeptiker vor allem aus dem geisteswissenschaftlichen Lager gern argumentieren. Hier wird ein gutes Vorhaben via Rechtsnorm schlecht verkauft! =DCberhaupt nicht einsehbar ist, wieso die DNB nicht mit dem Internetarchiv kooperiert. Es ist nun einmal existent und wird wohl nicht so bald von der Bildfl=E4sche verschwinden. Im =FCbrigen besch=E4ftigen sich auch regionale Pflichtexemplarbibliotheken (und Archivverwaltungen) mit der Webarchivierung. Klaus Graf From Rubina.Vock@fu-berlin.de Wed May 09 11:44:31 2007 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hliii-0000wU-17 for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 09 May 2007 11:44:31 +0200 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Hliih-0002gZ-Vp>; Wed, 09 May 2007 11:44:28 +0200 Received: from zuv33090.cedis.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.168.168] helo=ZUVTEMP04) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with smtp (envelope-from ) id <1Hliih-0002Ag-Us>; Wed, 09 May 2007 11:44:27 +0200 Message-ID: <026701c7921e$a2ae13e0$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> From: "Rubina Vock" To: "IPOA FORUM" Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 11:44:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0264_01C7922F.656EB1E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Originating-IP: 160.45.168.168 X-Spam-Level: / 0.0 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:45:42 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] IPOA Forum Willkommen! X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 09:44:32 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 2908 Lines: 82 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0264_01C7922F.656EB1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Herzlich Willkommen auf der Mailingliste der Informationsplattform = open-access.net! =20 Diese Mailingliste dient dem Informationsaustausch aller Interessierten = zu Open Access. 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------=_NextPart_000_0264_01C7922F.656EB1E0-- From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Wed May 09 11:46:56 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hlil2-0001Hh-Ar for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 09 May 2007 11:46:56 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A28520E1 for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 11:46:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 09 May 2007 09:46:52 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,508,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="12859124:sNHT19450466" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509114238.01bce680@uni-konstanz.de> Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070508173344.01c134e0@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:46:51 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.5 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:47:04 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] =?iso-8859-1?q?Open_Access_kritische_Empfehlung_der?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_Aussch=FCsse_an_den_Bundesrat?= X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 09:46:56 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 1980 Lines: 63 Liebe Teilnehmer der ipoa_forum liste, ich m=F6chte mich kurz vorstellen und eine erste=20 Mitteilung zum Thema Open Access in die Runde geben. Mein Name ist Anja Kersting, ich bin=20 Mitarbeiterin der Bibliothek der Universit=E4t=20 Konstanz und zusammen mit Rubina Vock=20 Koordinatorin des Projekts Informationsplattform=20 open-access.net. Ich freue mich auf angeregte=20 Open-Access-Diskussionen in diesem Forum! Nun zur eigentlichen Meldung: In der "Mitteilung der Kommission der=20 Europ=E4ischen Gemeinschaften an das Europ=E4ische=20 Parlament, den Rat und den Europ=E4ischen=20 Wirtschafts- und Sozialausschuss =FCber=20 wissenschaftliche Informationen im=20 Digital-zeitalter: Zugang, Verbreitung und=20 Bewahrung", vom 30.4.2007 wird Skepsis gegen=FCber=20 Open-Access-Publikationen deutlich. Der=20 federf=FChrende Ausschuss f=FCr Fragen der=20 Europ=E4ischen Union, der Rechtsausschuss und der=20 Wirtschaftsausschuss empfehlen dem Bundesrat,=20 Open Access als erg=E4nzenden Weg der=20 Wissensvermittlung zu betrachten und wirft die=20 Frage auf, inwieweit die wissenschaftliche=20 Informationsversorgung eine =F6ffentliche Aufgabe ist. Im Vergleich zum positiven Gegenentwurf des=20 Bundesrates zum Zweiten Korb, der Open Access=20 sehr positiv zugetan war, stellt diese Empfehlung=20 der Aussch=FCsse eine starke Relativierung der=20 bisherigen Bundesratsposition dar. http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Drucksachen/2007/0101-200/139-1-0= 7,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.pdf/139-1-07.pdf Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Hubertus.Kohle@lrz.uni-muenchen.de Wed May 09 13:34:57 2007 Received: from mailrelay2.lrz-muenchen.de ([129.187.254.102]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HlkRW-0001Yn-KP for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 09 May 2007 13:34:57 +0200 Received: from [141.84.141.148] ([141.84.141.148] [141.84.141.148]) by mailout.lrz-muenchen.de with ESMTP for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:34:45 +0200 Message-Id: <4641B1D5.1050006@lrz.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 13:34:45 +0200 From: Hubertus Kohle User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: de-DE, de, en-us, en To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22?= References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509114238.01bce680@uni-konstanz.de> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509114238.01bce680@uni-konstanz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable X-Spam-Level: / 0.9 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 May 2007 13:37:51 +0200 Subject: Re: [IP-OA_Forum] =?iso-8859-1?q?Open_Access_kritische_Empfehlung_der?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_Aussch=FCsse_an_den_Bundesrat?= X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:34:58 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 2703 Lines: 98 Anja Kersting schrieb: >Liebe Teilnehmer der ipoa_forum liste, liebe Frau Kersting > =20 > wie passt diese Melding eigentlich zu http://erc.europa.eu/pdf/open-access.pdf und zu http://ec.europa.eu/research/science-society/pdf/scientific-publication-stu= dy_en.pdf Sch=F6ne Gr=FC=DFe Ihr Hubertus Kohle --=20 Prof.Dr. Hubertus Kohle Institut f=FCr Kunstgeschichte der LMU M=FCnchen Georgenstr. 7 80799 M=FCnchen Tel. 089 21805317 Fax 089 21805316 Privat Theresienstr. 16 80333 M=FCnchen Tel. 08928879810 >ich m=F6chte mich kurz vorstellen und eine erste=20 >Mitteilung zum Thema Open Access in die Runde geben. > >Mein Name ist Anja Kersting, ich bin=20 >Mitarbeiterin der Bibliothek der Universit=E4t=20 >Konstanz und zusammen mit Rubina Vock=20 >Koordinatorin des Projekts Informationsplattform=20 >open-access.net. Ich freue mich auf angeregte=20 >Open-Access-Diskussionen in diesem Forum! > >Nun zur eigentlichen Meldung: > >In der "Mitteilung der Kommission der=20 >Europ=E4ischen Gemeinschaften an das Europ=E4ische=20 >Parlament, den Rat und den Europ=E4ischen=20 >Wirtschafts- und Sozialausschuss =FCber=20 >wissenschaftliche Informationen im=20 >Digital-zeitalter: Zugang, Verbreitung und=20 >Bewahrung", vom 30.4.2007 wird Skepsis gegen=FCber=20 >Open-Access-Publikationen deutlich. Der=20 >federf=FChrende Ausschuss f=FCr Fragen der=20 >Europ=E4ischen Union, der Rechtsausschuss und der=20 >Wirtschaftsausschuss empfehlen dem Bundesrat,=20 >Open Access als erg=E4nzenden Weg der=20 >Wissensvermittlung zu betrachten und wirft die=20 >Frage auf, inwieweit die wissenschaftliche=20 >Informationsversorgung eine =F6ffentliche Aufgabe ist. > >Im Vergleich zum positiven Gegenentwurf des=20 >Bundesrates zum Zweiten Korb, der Open Access=20 >sehr positiv zugetan war, stellt diese Empfehlung=20 >der Aussch=FCsse eine starke Relativierung der=20 >bisherigen Bundesratsposition dar. > >http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Drucksachen/2007/0101-200/139-1= -07,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.pdf/139-1-07.pdf > > >Viele Gr=FC=DFe, > >Anja Kersting > >----------------------------------------------- >Anja Kersting >Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek >Projekt Open Access >----------------------------------------------- >Raum B 906 >Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 >78457 Konstanz >Tel.: 07531/88-2475 >Fax: 07531/88-3082 >E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de >----------------------------------------------- >Informationsplattform Open Access: >http://www.open-access.net > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Ipoa_forum mailing list >Ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de >http://lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mailman/listinfo/ipoa_forum > > =20 > From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Wed May 09 13:58:14 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hlko4-0003T7-Jw for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 09 May 2007 13:58:14 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CD251B8C for ; Wed, 9 May 2007 13:58:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 09 May 2007 11:58:08 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,509,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="12867193:sNHT16650662" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509134536.01b7bba0@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 13:58:08 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting In-Reply-To: <4641B1D5.1050006@lrz.uni-muenchen.de> References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070509114238.01bce680@uni-konstanz.de> <4641B1D5.1050006@lrz.uni-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.5 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 09 May 2007 13:58:38 +0200 Subject: Re: [IP-OA_Forum] =?iso-8859-1?q?Open_Access_kritische_Empfehlung_der?= =?iso-8859-1?q?_Aussch=FCsse_an_den_Bundesrat?= X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 11:58:15 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 5206 Lines: 172 Liebe Liste, lieber Herr Kohle, >In der "Mitteilung der Kommission der >Europ=E4ischen Gemeinschaften ...", vom 30.4.2007 wird Skepsis gegen=FCber >Open-Access-Publikationen deutlich. Nat=FCrlich m=FCsste es hei=DFen " in der Empfehlung=20 verschiedener Bundesratsaussch=FCsse zu der "Mitteilung der Kommission ...". Dann passt es auch wieder mit den Aussagen in den=20 von Ihnen angebenen Dokumenten zusammen. Bitte entschuldigen Sie den Lapsus. Die Mitteilung der Kommission der Europ=E4ischen=20 Gemeinschaften an das Europ=E4ische Parlament, den=20 Rat und den Europ=E4ischen Wirtschafts- und=20 Sozialausschuss steht Open Access sehr=20 aufgeschlossen gegen=FCber. In der angesprochen=20 Empfehlung der Aussch=FCsse des Bundesrates=20 allerdings empfiehlt zwar der Ausschuss f=FCr=20 Kulturfragen des Bundesrates dem Bundesrat, die=20 Vorlage der Kommission zur Kenntnis zu nehmen,=20 die Aussch=FCsse f=FCr Fragen der EU (federf=FChrend),=20 der Rechts- und der Wirtschaftsausschuss regen=20 dagegen eine kritische Stellungnahme an. Zudem=20 wird Open Access wird nur als ein erg=E4nzender Weg=20 der Wissensvermittlung von Forschungsergebnissen gesehen. S ehr bemerkenswert ist die Aussage des Europa- und=20 des Wirtschaftsausschusses: "Die von der=20 Kommission in Aussicht gestellte Ko-Finanzierung=20 von Forschungsinfrastrukturen (insbesondere=20 "digitale Repositories") wirft nach Auffassung=20 des Bundesrates die grunds=E4tzliche Frage auf,=20 inwieweit die wissenschaftliche=20 Informationsversorgung eine =F6ffentliche Aufgabe ist." Diese Aussagen stellen eine starke Relativierung=20 der Einstellung des Bundesrats zu Open Access dar. Ich bin sehr gespannt wie sich der Bundesrat am Freitag positionieren wird. Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting At 13:34 09.05.2007, Hubertus Kohle wrote: >Anja Kersting schrieb: > > >Liebe Teilnehmer der ipoa_forum liste, liebe Frau Kersting > > > > >wie passt diese Melding eigentlich zu >http://erc.europa.eu/pdf/open-access.pdf >und zu >http://ec.europa.eu/research/science-society/pdf/scientific-publication-stu= dy_en.pdf >Sch=F6ne Gr=FC=DFe >Ihr Hubertus Kohle > >-- >Prof.Dr. Hubertus Kohle >Institut f=FCr Kunstgeschichte der LMU M=FCnchen >Georgenstr. 7 >80799 M=FCnchen >Tel. 089 21805317 >Fax 089 21805316 > >Privat >Theresienstr. 16 >80333 M=FCnchen >Tel. 08928879810 > > > >ich m=F6chte mich kurz vorstellen und eine erste > >Mitteilung zum Thema Open Access in die Runde geben. > > > >Mein Name ist Anja Kersting, ich bin > >Mitarbeiterin der Bibliothek der Universit=E4t > >Konstanz und zusammen mit Rubina Vock > >Koordinatorin des Projekts Informationsplattform > >open-access.net. Ich freue mich auf angeregte > >Open-Access-Diskussionen in diesem Forum! > > > >Nun zur eigentlichen Meldung: > > > >In der "Mitteilung der Kommission der > >Europ=E4ischen Gemeinschaften an das Europ=E4ische > >Parlament, den Rat und den Europ=E4ischen > >Wirtschafts- und Sozialausschuss =FCber > >wissenschaftliche Informationen im > >Digital-zeitalter: Zugang, Verbreitung und > >Bewahrung", vom 30.4.2007 wird Skepsis gegen=FCber > >Open-Access-Publikationen deutlich. Der > >federf=FChrende Ausschuss f=FCr Fragen der > >Europ=E4ischen Union, der Rechtsausschuss und der > >Wirtschaftsausschuss empfehlen dem Bundesrat, > >Open Access als erg=E4nzenden Weg der > >Wissensvermittlung zu betrachten und wirft die > >Frage auf, inwieweit die wissenschaftliche > >Informationsversorgung eine =F6ffentliche Aufgabe ist. > > > >Im Vergleich zum positiven Gegenentwurf des > >Bundesrates zum Zweiten Korb, der Open Access > >sehr positiv zugetan war, stellt diese Empfehlung > >der Aussch=FCsse eine starke Relativierung der > >bisherigen Bundesratsposition dar. > > > >http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Druc=20 >= ksachen/2007/0101-200/139-1-07,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.= pdf/139-1-07.pdf > > > > > >Viele Gr=FC=DFe, > > > >Anja Kersting > > > >----------------------------------------------- > >Anja Kersting > >Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek > >Projekt Open Access > >----------------------------------------------- > >Raum B 906 > >Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 > >78457 Konstanz > >Tel.: 07531/88-2475 > >Fax: 07531/88-3082 > >E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de > >----------------------------------------------- > >Informationsplattform Open Access: > >http://www.open-access.net > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Ipoa_forum mailing list > >Ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de > >http://lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mailman/listinfo/ipoa_forum > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Ipoa_forum mailing list >Ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de >http://lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mailman/listinfo/ipoa_forum ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From koltzenburg@tu-harburg.de Thu May 10 12:01:00 2007 Received: from smtp3.rz.tu-harburg.de ([134.28.202.138]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hm5SA-0004vi-9e for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) X-Scanned-By: TUHH Rechenzentrum content checker on 134.28.202.138 X-Scanned-By: TUHH on 134.28.202.179 X-Spam-Level: + 1.0 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 May 2007 12:17:52 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] neuer Artikel: "From Control to Networks in Academic Publishing - Peter Giger, Lena Trojer" X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:01:02 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 256 Lines: 14 Liebe Liste, hier ein Lesetipp, OA mit open peer review, "From Control to Networks in Academic Publishing" Peter Giger, Lena Trojer http://feministtechnoscience.se/journal/ -- Claudia Koltzenburg wiki.koltzenburg.net ~~~ koltzenburg@tu-harburg.de ~~~ From klausgraf@googlemail.com Fri May 11 21:56:26 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.171]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HmbDy-0000yM-Q4 for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Fri, 11 May 2007 21:56:25 +0200 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 36so740289uga for ; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:56:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.147.6 with SMTP id u6mr6228759bud.1178913381589; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.18.2 with HTTP; Fri, 11 May 2007 12:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 21:56:21 +0200 From: "Klaus Graf" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Open_Access_(http://openaccess-germany.de/)?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: / 0.0 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 12 May 2007 12:11:57 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Bundesrat gegen OA X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 19:56:26 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 65 Lines: 5 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3716819/ Gruss Dr. Klaus Graf From mini@let.dyndns.tv Sat May 12 12:27:26 2007 Received: from static-87-79-236-249.netcologne.de ([87.79.236.249] helo=let.dyndns.tv) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hmooq-0001UD-Hl for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; 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boundary=Apple-Mail-4-942444359 --Apple-Mail-4-942444359 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Recht sch=F6nen Dank fpr den Link , hier findet ja auch schon eine angeregte Diskusion statt = gruss On May 11, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Klaus Graf wrote: > http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3716819/ -- =20 "Pulvis et umbra sumus" - Staub und Schatten sind wir. web: http://www.let.de .local http://stattfernsehen.com --Apple-Mail-4-942444359 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Recht sch=F6nen Dank fpr den = Link ,

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= --Apple-Mail-4-942444359-- --Apple-Mail-5-942444632 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGRZZ5ckz/o44sWc4RAvGqAJ47lVDLSv8elNqHMhd5N9XV3BJ+ZwCgkh5/ 5Id14/gY1SUHQQsEIca7u0E= =3Fg/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-5-942444632-- From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Mon May 14 15:52:19 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HnayB-0008SL-Kq for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:52:19 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691EE20D0 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:52:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 14 May 2007 13:52:11 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,531,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13201632:sNHT17145058" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514155017.01ac0440@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:52:11 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.4 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:53:09 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Fwd: Re: Germany's Bundesrat against OA X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:52:20 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 7421 Lines: 191 Liebe Liste, wir wurden gebeten unten stehende Diskussion aus=20 anderen Listen auch hier abzubilden: >On Sun, 13 May 2007, Armbruster, Chris wrote: > > ...the publishers' lobbyists on this occasion were successful > > - they had their position written into the Bundesrat opinion, > > almost to the letter. > > > > This Bundesrat opinion is bad news for OA... > > How come that toll access publishers had it all their way? > > ...how good are OA activists in addressing the concerns of > > policy makers and parliaments? > > > > There principally are two routes to OA - > > a) via the self-regulation of universities, libraries, > > science organisations and learned societies, or > > b) via political regulation. decision-makers... providing > > 'conclusive evidence' that allows them to decide for you (and > > against the other side). > > Is the OA movement ready for this kind of adversarial politics? > >Probably not, and probably no need. The research community (researchers, >their universities and their funders) can do it all amongst themselves >already. There is a simple way, if we can only get the research community >to listen, and understand, and act: The Immediate-Deposit/Optional-Access >Mandate removes the publishers and the publishing lobby from the decision >loop *completely*. Government intervention is not needed either. > > http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/71-guid.html > http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/136-guid.html > >All I can do is keep repeating this message, amidst all the hubbub and >indirection, hoping that it will be understood that all else becomes >moot if the research community itself (universities and funders) just >mandate ID/OA: Absolutely nothing else matters. Nothing can stop the >worldwide research community from doing it. And it will work. And it >will bring 100% OA very soon. Everything else just means years more of >the confusion and delay we have now. To reach for less, or for more, >is to get next to nothing. ID/OA is completely within our reach; all >we need do is grasp it, now. > >Stevan Harnad > >On Sun, 13 May 2007, Armbruster, Chris wrote: > > > Dear Peter, dear all, > > > > The German Bundesrat is NOT against OA, but it is also not pro OA. > > > > The headline ('against OA') and summary on Heise > > Online presumably seeks to capture the drift of > > the Bundesrat deliberations, which are perceived > > as being less supportive of OA than the EC > > communication on scientific information (from February 2007). > > > > I urge you and anyone interested to study this > > case more closely. Strategically, it could be > > important to learn from this, because the > > Bundesrat - more specifically, its Committees for > > the EU, for legal policy and for economic affairs > > - explicitly reacted to the EC communication on scientific information. > > > > Recommendations of the Committees from 30 April: > >=20 >= http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Drucksachen/2007/0101-200/139-1-= 07,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.pdf/139-1-07.pdf=20 > > > > > > > Prior position of the Bundesregierung=20 > (Federal Government) from 26 February: > >=20 >= http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/SharedDocs/Drucksachen/2007/0101-200/139-07= ,templateId=3Draw,property=3DpublicationFile.pdf/139-07.pdf=20 > > > > > > > Agenda of the Bundesrat (scroll to TOP 34) the > > clarifies that this neither about legislation nor > > about a decision, but an opinion (Stellungnahme): > >=20 >= http://www.bundesrat.de/cln_051/nn_8690/DE/parlamentsmaterial/to-plenum/833= -sitzung/to-node.html?__nnn=3Dtrue=20 > > > > > The questions is, of course, what do we make of all of this? > > > > There is a prior Heise Online summary that > > captures the flavour of the deliberations and=20 > the shift quite well (I think): > > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/89366 > > > > My comment: > > 1. The opinion and commentary of the > > Bundesregierung (26 Feb) was reflective of the EC > > communication and highlighted organisational, > > technical, legal and economic issues. > > 2. In the Bundesrat this was narrowed to economic and legal issues. > > 3. I notice a resemblance (in spirit, if not in > > letter) between the concerns written down by the > > Bundesrat Committees and those of exclusive, toll > > access, content holding publishers as articulated > > in the recent white paper of stm, ALPSP and PSP. > > 4. If OA is defined as 'public provision' of free > > access then this jars with the prevailing (EC, > > political) focus on innovation, competitiveness and economic growth. > > =3D> It is probably fair to say that the > > publishers' lobbyists on this occasion were > > successful - they had their position written into > > the Bundesrat opinion, almost to the letter. The > > irony is, of course, that exclusive copyright > > (transfer) favours business models that lead to > > monopoly rent-seeking. But these arguments did > > not feature in the Bundesrat. Instead, the > > publishers could even get the Bundesrat to > > acknowledge that online silos and exclusive retro > > digitisation (which, principally, enhances > > rent-seeking to the detriment of innovation and > > competition) is a useful contribution to enhancing access. > > > > In summary: > > - This Bundesrat opinion is bad news for OA - and > > thus deserves to travel fast. The OA movement > > does need to ask itself: How come that > > rent-seeking, toll access publishers had it all their way? > > - OA supporters have been happy to raise the > > stakes by targeting national and international > > policy makers (cf. EC petition). Now that > > attention is given to OA, how good are OA > > activists in addressing the concerns of policy makers and parliaments? > > - There principally are two routes to OA - a) via > > the self-regulation of universities, libraries, > > science organisations and learned societies, or > > b) via political regulation. If one decides to > > move into the political arena, then one needs to > > be firm on economic and legal detail, build a > > broad coalition (e.g. including major players of > > the new economy) and meet the expectations of the > > decision-makers of providing 'conclusive > > evidence' that allows them to decide for you (and > > against the other side). Is the OA movement ready > > for this kind of adversarial politics? > > > > Regards, Chris > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SPARC Open Access Forum on behalf of Peter Suber > > Sent: Sat 5/12/2007 9:38 PM > > To: SPARC Open Access Forum > > Subject: [SOAF] Germany's Bundesrat against OA > > > > Yesterday Stefan Krempl published a story in > > Heise Online, "Bundesrat f=FCr umfassendere=20 > Volksz=E4hlung und gegen Open Access." > > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/89635 > > > > When I blogged it, I asked for the help of > > bilingual readers in grasping the details. > >=20 >= http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/2007_05_06_fosblogarchive.html#864212759= 0487399314 ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Mon May 14 15:56:21 2007 Received: from cytosin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.61]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hnb29-0000Tm-9X for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56:20 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by cytosin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2616C1459 for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 14 May 2007 13:56:17 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,531,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13201989:sNHT14646002" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514155613.01a91580@uni-konstanz.de> Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070514154756.01aba480@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56:17 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.4 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:56:49 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Open-Access-Informationen der Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft nun auf open-access.net! X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 13:56:21 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 657 Lines: 29 Liebe Liste, seit soeben sind nun auch die=20 Open-Access-Informationsseiten der=20 Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft auf open-access.net zu finden: http://open-access.net/de/oa_informationen_der/fraunhofer_gesellschaft/ Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From klausgraf@googlemail.com Mon May 14 19:31:35 2007 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HneOP-0001Ig-Ln for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 14 May 2007 19:31:35 +0200 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 36so1114481uga for ; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.6.14 with SMTP id j14mr857236ugi.1179163884596; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.18.2 with HTTP; Mon, 14 May 2007 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:31:24 +0200 From: "Klaus Graf" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Open_Access_(http://openaccess-germany.de/)?=" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: / 0.0 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 15 May 2007 09:35:06 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Unbelegte Behauptungen zur Verkaufsfoerderung durch OA X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:31:36 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 63 Lines: 4 http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3326893/#3728341 Klaus Graf From Karlheinz.Pappenberger@uni-konstanz.de Thu May 17 01:09:25 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HoScU-0006tN-NY for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Thu, 17 May 2007 01:09:25 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC39F16F3 for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 01:09:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pc89-115.isdn.uni-konstanz.de (HELO wessenberg.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.89.115]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 16 May 2007 23:09:15 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,544,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13393413:sNHT15161517" Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20070517005641.0298c1e0@popserver.uni-konstanz.de> X-Sender: pop05927@popserver.uni-konstanz.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 01:09:16 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Karlheinz Pappenberger Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.2 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 17 May 2007 09:58:14 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Call for Papers - OA-Workshop Informatik X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 23:09:26 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 1140 Lines: 36 Liebe Teilnehmer der ipoa_forum liste, im Rahmen der Jahrestagung der Gesellschaft f=FCr Informatik in Bremen im=20 September 2007 (http://www.informatik2007.de/) findet am Montag, den 24.9. ein Workshop zu= =20 Open Access statt. Der offizielle Call for Papers ist bereits abgelaufen; es werden aber noch= =20 Beitr=E4ge gesucht. Bis 28.5. soll die Programmstruktur stehen. Es wird gebeten, Beitr=E4ge bis= =20 sp=E4testens 28.5. einzureichen. Angenommene Beitr=E4ge, die bis sp=E4testens 1.7. vollst=E4ndig eingereicht= sind=20 (max. 5 Seiten), werden im GI-Tagungsband ver=F6ffentlicht. Weitere Informationen finden Sie unter http://openaccess-germany.de/de/oa_in_verschiedenen_faechern/informatik/info= rmatik_2007_call_for_papers/) Freundliche Gr=FC=DFe, Karlheinz Pappenberger --------------------------------------------------------------------- Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access --------------------------------------------------------------------- Universitaetsstrasse 10; D-78457 Konstanz Raum B 909 Tel.: ++49 (0)7531/88-2844 Fax: ++49 (0)7531/88-3082 E-mail: Karlheinz.Pappenberger@uni-konstanz.de From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Thu May 17 15:52:05 2007 Received: from cytosin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.61]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HogOg-0002Cs-SZ for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:05 +0200 Received: from pyrimidin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (pyrimidin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.46]) by cytosin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7B25156A for ; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pauki.rz.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.55]) by pyrimidin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 17 May 2007 13:52:01 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,548,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="4650215:sNHT14475608" Received: by pauki.rz.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix, from userid 30) id 9437A78007FE; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 84-75-65-152.dclient.hispeed.ch (84-75-65-152.dclient.hispeed.ch [84.75.65.152]) by webmail.uni-konstanz.de (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:01 +0200 Message-ID: <20070517155201.o6f1cdw3wo848wcs@webmail.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:01 +0200 From: Anja Kersting To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de References: <5.0.2.1.1.20070517005641.0298c1e0@popserver.uni-konstanz.de> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.1.20070517005641.0298c1e0@popserver.uni-konstanz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-Originating-IP: 84.75.65.152 X-Spam-Level: / 0.0 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:52:39 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Diskussion im Bundesrat X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 13:52:06 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 270 Lines: 12 Liebe Liste, Herr Steinhauer beschreibt in seinem Blog sehr anschaulich, wie die =20 "Diskussion" im Bundesrat am letzten Freitag abgelaufen ist... http://bibliotheksrecht.blog.de/2007/05/17/die_dikussion_im_bundesrat~228539= 3 Viele Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Anja Kersting From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Mon May 21 10:23:00 2007 Received: from cytosin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.61]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq3AK-0003Ad-Pz for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 21 May 2007 10:22:59 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by cytosin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC551505 for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 10:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 21 May 2007 08:22:47 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,560,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13644686:sNHT15152991" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070521100437.01a6f400@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:22:47 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.3 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:24:50 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Publikation Craig et al X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:23:00 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 1579 Lines: 51 Liebe Liste, eine Vorabversion einer neuen Publikation zur=20 Frage, ob Open Access ver=F6ffentlichte Artikel=20 einen h=F6heren Impact-Faktor aufweisen, ist erschienen: Craig, Ian; Andrew Plume, Marie McVeigh, James=20 Pringle & Mayur Amin (2007) Do Open Access=20 Articles Have Greater Citation Impact? A critical=20 review of the literature. Journal of Informetrics. http://www.publishingresearch.net/Citations-SummaryPaper3_000.pdf.pdf Die Autoren gestehen Open-Access-Publikationen=20 zwar eine h=F6here Zitationsrate zu, allerdings=20 nicht weil sie Open Access seien, sondern weil=20 sie eher verf=FCgbar seien und zudem=20 Open-Access-Artikel anscheinend sowieso bessere=20 Artikel von bekannteren Autoren seien, die ohnehin mehr zitiert w=FCrden!! Der kausale Zusammenhang zwischen Open Access und=20 einer h=F6heren Zitationsrate sei also nicht gegeben. Man fragt sich nur, ob diese Autoren =FCberhaupt=20 derartiges nachweisen wollten, wenn man die=20 Arbeitgeber der Autoren, Iain D.Craig=20 (Wiley-Blackwell), Andrew M.Plume, Mayur Amin=20 (Elsevier), Marie E.McVeigh, James Pringle (Thomson Scientific) beachtet!! Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Mon May 21 14:15:50 2007 Received: from guanin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.60]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq6nf-0002At-OA for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:15:49 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by guanin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EFF1CFF for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:15:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 21 May 2007 12:15:40 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,560,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13663369:sNHT14792295" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070521140757.01ac6d68@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:15:40 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.3 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:17:36 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Nachtrag Publikation Craig X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 12:15:54 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 825 Lines: 32 Liebe Liste, auf Nachfrage hier der Link zur Quelle bzgl.=20 Diskussion zur Publikation von Craig et al. Die Information basierte auf einer Diskussion im=20 american scientist open access forum, die ganze=20 Diskussion k=F6nnen Sie im Archiv unter den=20 Beitr=E4gen von Stevan Harnad nachlesen: http://listserver.sigmaxi.org/sc/wa.exe?A1=3Dind07&L=3Damerican-scientist-op= en-access-forum&F=3Dl Anja Kersting ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Rubina.Vock@fu-berlin.de Mon May 21 14:16:23 2007 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq6oC-0002De-B0 for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:16:22 +0200 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Hq6o9-0000ME-F1>; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:16:13 +0200 Received: from zuv33090.cedis.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.168.168] helo=ZUVTEMP04) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with smtp (envelope-from ) id <1Hq6o9-00066A-E6>; Mon, 21 May 2007 14:16:13 +0200 Message-ID: <08a801c79ba1$d2ed5e80$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> From: "Rubina Vock" To: "IPOA FORUM" Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:16:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_08A3_01C79BB2.95914CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Originating-IP: 160.45.168.168 X-Spam-Level: / 0.1 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:17:36 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] ElPub und BOBCATSSS X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 12:16:23 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 4095 Lines: 121 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_08A3_01C79BB2.95914CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Liebe Liste, hier nur zwei kurze Hinweise: Die Anmeldung f=FCr die ELPUB 2007 l=E4uft noch. Thema der Konferenz ist = "Openness in Electronic Publishing: Awareness, Discovery and Open = Access". Alles Weitere unter http://www.elpub.net/ Schade nur, dass die = Preise doch sehr hoch und f=FCr viele nicht bezahlbar sind!=20 Die Vorbereitungen f=FCr das 16. internationale Bibliothekssymposium = BOBCATSSS 2008 haben begonnen. Thema ist "Providing Access to = Information for Everyone". Die Deadline f=FCr das Einreichen von = Abstracts ist der 15.Juni 2007. Mehr Informationen unter = www.bobcatsss2008.org=20 Viele Gr=FC=DFe Rubina Vock ____________________________ Freie Universit=E4t Berlin Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme (CeDiS) Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia Dipl.-Psych. Rubina Vock E-Publishing, Open Access Informationsplattform Open Access=20 Projektkoordination Ihnestr. 24 14195 Berlin E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de Tel.: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52779 Fax: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52843 Mobile: 0176 - 255 50 510=20 Privat: +49 (0) 30 - 323 71 09 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_08A3_01C79BB2.95914CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Liebe Liste,
 
hier nur zwei kurze = Hinweise:
 
Die Anmeldung f=FCr die ELPUB 2007 = l=E4uft noch. Thema=20 der Konferenz ist "Openness in Electronic Publishing: Awareness, = Discovery and=20 Open Access". Alles Weitere unter http://www.elpub.net/  Schade=20 nur, dass die Preise doch sehr hoch und f=FCr viele nicht bezahlbar = sind!=20
 
Die Vorbereitungen f=FCr das 16. = internationale=20 Bibliothekssymposium BOBCATSSS 2008 haben begonnen. Thema ist "Providing = Access=20 to Information for Everyone". Die Deadline f=FCr das Einreichen von = Abstracts ist=20 der 15.Juni 2007. Mehr Informationen unter www.bobcatsss2008.org =
 
Viele Gr=FC=DFe
 
Rubina Vock
 
____________________________
 
Freie Universit=E4t Berlin
 
Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme=20 (CeDiS)
Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia
 
Dipl.-Psych. Rubina = Vock
E-Publishing, Open=20 Access
Informationsplattform Open Access =
Projektkoordination
Ihnestr.=20 24
14195 Berlin
 
E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de
 
Tel.: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52779
Fax: = +49 (0) 30 -=20 838 52843
Mobile: 0176 - 255 50 510
Privat: +49 (0) 30 - 323 71 = 09 =20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_08A3_01C79BB2.95914CC0-- From Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de Wed May 23 17:41:22 2007 Received: from cytosin.uni-konstanz.de ([134.34.240.61]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqsxW-0006lP-SK for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Wed, 23 May 2007 17:41:21 +0200 Received: from purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de (purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.240.45]) by cytosin.uni-konstanz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0E915AC for ; Wed, 23 May 2007 17:41:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from b127.ub.uni-konstanz.de (HELO kersting.uni-konstanz.de) ([134.34.200.157]) by purin.rz.uni-konstanz.de with ESMTP; 23 May 2007 15:41:02 +0000 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,570,1170633600"; d="scan'208"; a="13863893:sNHT14740516" Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.1.20070523173444.01adcc40@uni-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 17:41:02 +0200 To: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de From: Anja Kersting Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Level: / -0.3 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 23 May 2007 18:05:12 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] =?iso-8859-1?q?Pressemitteilung_des_Urheberrechtsb?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=FCndnisses___zur_Bundesratssitzung_am_11=2E05=2E?= X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:41:23 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 699 Lines: 32 Liebe Liste, das Urheberrechtsb=FCndniss hat eine=20 Pressemitteilung zur Bundesratssitzung am 11.05. ver=F6ffentlicht.: http://www.urheberrechtsbuendnis.de/pressemitteilung0607.html Viele Gr=FC=DFe, Anja Kersting Quelle: http://www.ub.uni-dortmund.de/listen/inetbib/msg33483.html ----------------------------------------------- Anja Kersting Universit=E4t Konstanz - Bibliothek Projekt Open Access ----------------------------------------------- Raum B 906 Universit=E4tsstra=DFe 10 78457 Konstanz Tel.: 07531/88-2475 Fax: 07531/88-3082 E-Mail: Anja.Kersting@uni-konstanz.de ----------------------------------------------- Informationsplattform Open Access: http://www.open-access.net From Rubina.Vock@fu-berlin.de Tue May 29 15:46:29 2007 Received: from outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.66]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht21o-000645-GH for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:46:29 +0200 Received: from inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de ([130.133.4.69]) by outpost1.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (envelope-from ) id <1Ht1eM-00076M-99>; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:22:10 +0200 Received: from zuv33090.cedis.fu-berlin.de ([160.45.168.168] helo=ZUVTEMP04) by inpost2.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Exim 4.66) for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with smtp (envelope-from ) id <1Ht1eM-0008Dk-8A>; Tue, 29 May 2007 15:22:10 +0200 Message-ID: <029201c7a1f4$5caafb70$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> From: "Rubina Vock" To: "IPOA FORUM" Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:22:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_028F_01C7A205.1EBD7F20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Originating-IP: 160.45.168.168 X-Spam-Level: / 0.1 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:03:23 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Archivierungspflicht der DNB auf Netzinhalte X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:46:29 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 3719 Lines: 109 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_028F_01C7A205.1EBD7F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Liebe Liste, schon im Jahr 2006 wurde das Gesetz der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek = dahingehend novelliert, dass auch "unk=F6rperliche Werke" (Netzinhalte) = archiviert werden m=FCssen. Diese Ablieferungs- und Sammelpflicht gilt = z.B. f=FCr elektronische Tageszeitungen, Zeitschriften und Monographien. = In einem Entwurf der Pflichtabgabeverordnung (PflAV) vom 21.5.2007 = konkretisiert der Gesetzgeber seine Vorstellung =FCber die Archivierung = von "unk=F6rperlichen" Werken. Mehr Information unter http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/90316 Viele Gr=FC=DFe Rubina Vock ____________________________ Freie Universit=E4t Berlin Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme (CeDiS) Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia Dipl.-Psych. Rubina Vock E-Publishing, Open Access Informationsplattform Open Access=20 Projektkoordination Ihnestr. 24 14195 Berlin E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de Tel.: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52779 Fax: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52843 Mobile: 0176 - 255 50 510=20 Privat: +49 (0) 30 - 323 71 09 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_028F_01C7A205.1EBD7F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Liebe Liste,
 
schon im Jahr 2006 wurde das Gesetz der = Deutschen=20 Nationalbibliothek dahingehend novelliert, dass auch "unk=F6rperliche = Werke"=20 (Netzinhalte) archiviert werden m=FCssen. Diese Ablieferungs- und = Sammelpflicht=20 gilt z.B. f=FCr elektronische Tageszeitungen, Zeitschriften = und Monographien.=20 In einem Entwurf der Pflichtabgabeverordnung (PflAV) vom 21.5.2007 = konkretisiert=20 der Gesetzgeber seine Vorstellung =FCber die Archivierung von = "unk=F6rperlichen"=20 Werken.
 
Mehr Information unter http://www.heise.de= /newsticker/meldung/90316
 
Viele Gr=FC=DFe
Rubina Vock
 
____________________________
 
Freie Universit=E4t Berlin
 
Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme=20 (CeDiS)
Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia
 
Dipl.-Psych. Rubina = Vock
E-Publishing, Open=20 Access
Informationsplattform Open Access =
Projektkoordination
Ihnestr.=20 24
14195 Berlin
 
E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de
 
Tel.: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52779
Fax: = +49 (0) 30 -=20 838 52843
Mobile: 0176 - 255 50 510
Privat: +49 (0) 30 - 323 71 = 09 =20
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_028F_01C7A205.1EBD7F20-- From Rupert.Rompel@vde.com Tue May 29 17:00:11 2007 Received: from smtp.vde.com ([194.25.92.243]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht3BA-000256-Qb for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Tue, 29 May 2007 17:00:11 +0200 Received: from OF-DMZ-GWIA-MTA by smtp.vde.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 29 May 2007 16:39:44 +0200 Message-Id: <465C5748020000FC00004313@smtp.vde.com> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.1 Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:39:36 +0200 From: "Rupert Rompel" To: "IPOA FORUM" References: <029201c7a1f4$5caafb70$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> In-Reply-To: <029201c7a1f4$5caafb70$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Level: + 1.1 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:09:18 +0200 Subject: [IP-OA_Forum] Antw: Archivierungspflicht der DNB auf Netzinhalte X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:00:12 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 1321 Lines: 49 Erinnerungen an Schilda werden wach: Wir wissen zwar noch nicht, wie wir=92s machen wollen, aber was wir falsch = machen wird mit 10.000, Euro bestraft (DNBG =A719, Abs. 2,3) !! So eine Gesetzgebung erfordert Nervenkraft ! =20 R. Rompel >>> "Rubina Vock" 29.5.2007 15:22 >>> Liebe Liste, schon im Jahr 2006 wurde das Gesetz der Deutschen Nationalbibliothek = dahingehend novelliert, dass auch "unk=F6rperliche Werke" (Netzinhalte) = archiviert werden m=FCssen. Diese Ablieferungs- und Sammelpflicht gilt = z.B. f=FCr elektronische Tageszeitungen, Zeitschriften und Monographien. = In einem Entwurf der Pflichtabgabeverordnung (PflAV) vom 21.5.2007 = konkretisiert der Gesetzgeber seine Vorstellung =FCber die Archivierung = von "unk=F6rperlichen" Werken. Mehr Information unter http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/90316=20 Viele Gr=FC=DFe Rubina Vock ____________________________ Freie Universit=E4t Berlin Center f=FCr Digitale Systeme (CeDiS) Kompetenzzentrum e-Learning/Multimedia Dipl.-Psych. Rubina Vock E-Publishing, Open Access Informationsplattform Open Access=20 Projektkoordination Ihnestr. 24 14195 Berlin E-Mail: rubina.vock@fu-berlin.de=20 Tel.: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52779 Fax: +49 (0) 30 - 838 52843 Mobile: 0176 - 255 50 510=20 Privat: +49 (0) 30 - 323 71 09 =20 From klausgraf@googlemail.com Tue May 29 23:07:25 2007 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com ([64.233.184.237]) by troet.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ht8uX-0006xz-S6 for ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de; Tue, 29 May 2007 23:07:25 +0200 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 58so782463wri for ; Tue, 29 May 2007 14:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.73.7 with SMTP id v7mr84085aga.1180471332014; Tue, 29 May 2007 13:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.73.6 with HTTP; Tue, 29 May 2007 13:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 22:42:11 +0200 From: "Klaus Graf" To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Open_Access_(http://openaccess-germany.de/)?=" In-Reply-To: <465C5748020000FC00004313@smtp.vde.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <029201c7a1f4$5caafb70$a8a82da0@cedis.fuberlin.de> <465C5748020000FC00004313@smtp.vde.com> X-Spam-Level: / 0.0 X-Spam-Status: No X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 May 2007 23:23:07 +0200 Subject: Re: [IP-OA_Forum] Antw: Archivierungspflicht der DNB auf Netzinhalte X-BeenThere: ipoa_forum@lists.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Op?= =?iso-8859-1?q?en_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Expertenforum_f=FCr_die_Informationsplattform_Open_Access_=28http=3A//openaccess-germany=2Ede/=29?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:07:26 -0000 Status: O Content-Length: 674 Lines: 17 Auch bei Heise =FCberwiegt Unmut, siehe auch: http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/3780158 An sich ist das Vorhaben der DNB f=FCr OA zentral, denn die Langzeitarchivierung der Dokumente ist ja ein Punkt, mit dem OA-Skeptiker vor allem aus dem geisteswissenschaftlichen Lager gern argumentieren. Hier wird ein gutes Vorhaben via Rechtsnorm schlecht verkauft! =DCberhaupt nicht einsehbar ist, wieso die DNB nicht mit dem Internetarchiv kooperiert. Es ist nun einmal existent und wird wohl nicht so bald von der Bildfl=E4sche verschwinden. Im =FCbrigen besch=E4ftigen sich auch regionale Pflichtexemplarbibliotheken (und Archivverwaltungen) mit der Webarchivierung. Klaus Graf