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Hi Adrian,

Would like to see that video demonstration of NetMD download. Do you have a link?

Do not have a normal MD-74 lying around but only Hi-MD's. In some weeks I will have some disks.

Will sure test in GUI if it is released. If the cli works in Win7 command prompt I can test as well.

What is confusing me is your text:

"Downloading to HiMD in ATRAC3+ or PCM is unfortunately a bit

more complicated as it involves a key encryption mechanism
since all non-MP3 tracks on HiMD MiniDiscs are encrypted. I don't
know when this will be implemented, but it will come at some
time."

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Hi

Thanks for this reply.

These patches to implement this mp3 download?in the GUI were proposed already a long time ago.
When will you be able to implement them? Is this dependent on the current developments done by Thomas?
Otherwise, can you please implement these?

I was hoping that with the release of VLC media player 2.1 the Atract3plus (which was coded on the Summer of Code) was implemented. But no signs of that in the VLC changelog. It only says Atrac support (limited). I saw that there were some additions to the LibAV repository, but I am unable to compile / make a suitable patch to read my Atrac3plus files from my MZ-RH1.

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On 01/01/2014 11:53 PM, Jurgen. wrote:
> Does this mean I can download .wav to my MZ-RH1 in PCM (44.1 khz)?
> Or is this only for NetMD?

You will be able to download audio files to your MZ-RH1 when the
MiniDisc inserted is a standard MiniDisc (MD-60/74/80).

Downloads to HiMD are currently supported in MP3 format only
and only through the "himdcli" command line interface, but we
actually have patches to integrate MP3 downloads to the user
interface.

Downloading to HiMD in ATRAC3+ or PCM is unfortunately a bit
more complicated as it involves a key encryption mechanism
since all non-MP3 tracks on HiMD MiniDiscs are encrypted. I don't
know when this will be implemented, but it will come at some
time.

Sorry, if that's a let-down.

Adrian

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Hi Jurgen!

On 01/05/2014 02:22 PM, Jurgen. wrote:
> These patches to implement this mp3 download in the GUI were proposed
> already a long time ago.

Correct. They are part of the command line interface already. However,
not part of the graphical user interface. I don't remember exactly
whether

> When will you be able to implement them? Is this dependent on the
> current developments done by Thomas?

No, it's independent. However, to make sure we don't create a mess
and end up with something which isn't working in the end, I'd like
to have Thomas' patches for NetMD support to be committed first. I am
going to do that this evening.

He has already captured a video demonstrating that NetMD downloads
are now fully working which I find pretty impressive. This is the
result of the the efforts of so many people and I had never thought
that we could ever replace almost all transfer functionality of
SonicStage, I'm very happy now :).

> Otherwise, can you please implement these?

Sure. I'll dig through the old patches and repost them to the list
for review.

> I was hoping that with the release of VLC media player 2.1 the
> Atract3plus (which was coded on the Summer of Code) was implemented. But
> no signs of that in the VLC changelog. It only says Atrac support
> (limited). I saw that there were some additions to the LibAV repository,
> but I am unable to compile / make a suitable patch to read my Atrac3plus
> files from my MZ-RH1.

ATRAC3+ is now integrated into the sources of ffmpeg:

>
http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=commit;h=2e1fb96af36348479e14aa85f445915ea09e70fa

It's a matter of time when the released version of VLC will be able
to play back ATRAC3+ files. I suspect it will happen in the next
minor version 2.2.x.

I will talk to Jean-Baptiste Kempf and ask him when he expects
VLC to be released with the decoder.

Adrian

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To me this sounds strange as upload of ATRAC3+ material already works, also PCM.

Or is it: device decrypts the file and uploads it uncrypted over the usb transfer line to PC in Atrac3+ format, what is now working? Downloading to device needs encryption before transfer, as the device only accepts encrypted files?

About the FFMPEG commits, very nice if you ask Jean Baptiste Kempf, can't wait to use VLC for playback.

What about the DRM in the files, is this DRM stripped before the upload? Does this matter for MP3 / Atrac / PCM ?

Also, about the encryption. I have read a bit more about this subject and you guys found a way to circumvent the key generation process by using keys that are unique (and thus work) instead of device specific keys?

@Thomas: nice work.

Thanks,